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The Clemency Issue October 20, 2006

Posted by Karan in General.
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I thought Afzal Guru was supposed to be hanged today. He was one of the abettors of the heinous attack on the temple of Indian democracy, the Indian Parliament on 13th December, 2001. Having been sentenced to a death penalty (two others were let off when they appealed to a higher court, Unbelievable), his appeal for clemency now lies with the Home ministry. And as usual, human rights activists and the Hurriyat are up in arms against the death penalty. Don’t these guys realize that this was an attack on Indian democracy itself, aimed at wiping out the top leadership of the country? What if the terrorists had managed to storm into the Parliament on that fateful day? As for the argument that these criminals can be reformed, think about it. When these people indulge in such activities despite having knowledge of its consequences, where is the scope of changing them? The best example is Masood Azhar.

 

On introspecting further, I realise that the entire Indian law system sucks big time. A judgment can be appealed till you reach the highest court. Each case takes years and years to solve at every level. All this time, the offender is left scot free, and can as well indulge in similar activities. If most of the cases anyway have to go to the higher courts, why have the lower courts at all? An interesting stat related to this, the number of cases pending before the Indian Supreme Court has crossed 150000!!

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1. Indian - October 20, 2006

===>>I thought Afzal Guru was supposed to be hanged today

>(two others were let off when they appealed to a higher court, Unbelievable),

>And as usual, human rights activists and Kashmiri pundits are up in arms against the death penalty.

>I realise that the entire Indian law system sucks big time. A judgment can be appealed till you reach the highest court.

>An interesting stat related to this, the number of cases pending before the Indian Supreme Court has crossed 150000!!

2. Indian - October 20, 2006

[i]I thought Afzal Guru was supposed to be hanged today[/i]

thats why teachers had tried teaching you to read the daily newspaper

[/i](two others were let off when they appealed to a higher court, Unbelievable),[/i]

are you questioning the judgement of the Supreme Court? Are you even aware of the charges filed against them?

[i]And as usual, human rights activists and Kashmiri pundits are up in arms against the death penalty.[/i]

Kashmiri pundits 😮 …. in which world are you living dude…all the protests are being led by JKLF n Hurriyat…major political parties ( INC, NC, PP etc ) have being supporting it from outside…where has kashmiri pundits come into picture from?

[i]I realise that the entire Indian law system sucks big time. A judgment can be appealed till you reach the highest court.[/i]

Never ever pose a problem without a solution…in the past ‘the right to appeal’ has saved many lifes…

[i]An interesting stat related to this, the number of cases pending before the Indian Supreme Court has crossed 150000!![/i]

dude u suk big time…chk this out
supremecourtofindia.nic.in/new_s/pendingstat.htm
http://supremecourtofindia.nic.in/new_s/pendingstat.htm

3. karanmaroo - October 20, 2006

@ india.
1)Lol@ the first point
2)a fast track court sentenced them n later the high court upheld it.
3)sorry.. that was a typo
4)lol.. the people who have lost their lives thanks to the terroristst is much larger.. ‘cos they are free to do whatever they want to. Even if you want to allow appeals, why do you allow them to appeal as many times as they feel like.. may b one appeal would suffice. Nd why do all the cases have to reach the SC?
5)now check this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_India
Do u believ the stats of the govt of India?

nd neways.. y don u fuckin come out in the open.. do u need to hide ur identity? only shows ur cowardness..

4. Manoj - October 20, 2006

your introspection is flawed logically.

>judgment can be appealed till you reach the highest court. Each >case takes years and years to solve at every level.
ok agreed.

>All this time, the offender is left scot free, and can as well indulge in >similar activities.
if he didnt get any punishment why the hell does he need
to appeal to the higher courts ?
and if he has got some punishment, then he is already inside
the jail and will be there until the new decision is made

Please be careful while posting such hate feelings on the internet.
Death penalty is a very sensitive issue…, what do you think will
the terrorist make out of Afzal if he is hanged.
They will make posters of him and project him as a Hero who gave his life for Jihad and so on and so forth.
I don’t know the solution but hanging him is not one for sure.

5. Indian - October 20, 2006

[B]are you questioning the judgement of the Supreme Court?[/B]

Still looking forward to get a Yes/No answer…

[B]3)sorry.. that was a typo[/B]

avoid them….words once said don’t come back…n it surprises me that u post without even goin through it once….

[B]4)lol.. the people who have lost their lives thanks to the terroristst is much larger.. ‘cos they are free to do whatever they want to.[/B]

Who’s free to do what? r u saying that in India terrorists are free to do what ever they want to do?

[B]Even if you want to allow appeals, why do you allow them to appeal as many times as they feel like..[/B]

This makes me laugh now…hope cbse/icse boards SST course havn’t droped down to such low levels…

[B]Nd why do all the cases have to reach the SC?[/B]

’cause its ‘SUPREME’…PS: for your info…supreme court doesn’t accept all the cases brought in front of the bench.

[B]5)now check this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_India
Do u believ the stats of the govt of India?[/B]

1st of all, whts the authentication of the stats u mentioned….2ndly the stats mentioned in the above site are of 1990…mind you we ( – you ) are living in 2006..go by current stats….

This happens to be the worst post ever composed/read….these are not GoI but mah stats…believe them….

[B]do u need to hide ur identity? [/B]

asshole…mah names written outta thr…you needa have brains to figure it out…

6. Himank Sharma - October 20, 2006

Well there seems to be a godd debate going on here..I wont indulge much in ti but one thing for sure i would like to say is…Afzal Guru should be hanged for sure….You canmt let terrorists like him to live coz there will bea another plane hijack and then govt will be forced to leave him and then he will do some other acts like this…

7. Anand Subramanian - October 22, 2006

tru karan..talkin bout d judicial system, im reminded of one of ma faculty, a direct student of d great laywers, both dr ramjeth malani and dr. palkhiwaala. dr malani was incidentally a lawyer by progeny!!
A man on his death bed tells his son; ” son there is this land of mine under litigation. nsure that u get justic”
the son takes up d matter…puts it 2 d courts.. fails..his time comes…on his death bad…says ” son, there is this land under litigation, my dad wanted me 2 finish d case…sadly i cudnt..”
the son now takes it up…tries..fails..on his deathbed says “son you are a lawyer urselves…somewhow get this land out of litigation..you are the fourth generation of this desire!!!”

this 4th gen man was ram jeth malani…out of d litigation he surely brought d land…but wats d noteable point is…a land litigation case in our cuntry takes 4 Generation!!! phew!! y don we do sumthin bout it ourselvs???

8. Karan - October 23, 2006

@ manoj.. its not hate.. its the desire to see these terrorists punished.. think of the families who are in a belaugered state today due to those guys
@ Indian. I pity you.. U need a check up. What brains are you talking about when you cannot understand the simple fact that its not possible to make out who you are on the basis of what you have revelaed. And your nick Indian?? Haha thats a joke.
You have written the comment as if you dont make any fuckin mistakes and are Mr.Perfectionist. And if you thought this was the worst post, you need not have spent all the time and effort for writing a comment for the second time :O
@ Himank.. ya dude.. i agree with you.

9. Aditya - October 26, 2006

i also feel that the whole judicial system of india needs to be reviewed….
giving pardons to such fierce terrorists is bound to set a wrong precedent…moreover it would adversely affect the morale of security personnel who endanger their lives to ensure security to us…

10. Maximus - December 20, 2007

I would like to see a continuation of the topic


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